Speaking of… The Night’s King and Night’s Watch : The treacherous Night’s King ( not to be confused — or maybe so ) and his army of Night’s Watch would turn the heroics of Night’s Watch on its head in Game of Thrones.
Deadline reports that the Game of Thrones prequel series, developed by showrunner Jane Goldman (Kingsman franchise) is dead, the same day of a planned WarnerMedia press conference and investor presentation about the HBO Max streaming service, was announced that a second prequel written by Ryan Condal (Colony) would be promoted.
The news of the departure of the Goldman prequel repeats problems that happened with the original Game of Thrones pilot that was recast and resealed before that series began, however there is no indication that the Naomi Watts–starring prequel pilot will receive a do-over as David Benioff and D.B. Weiss succeeded in it.
Martin responded to Goldman’s project on his blog about not going ahead.
I was saddened to hear that the show would not go to a series. Jane Goldman is a great screenwriter, and I enjoyed brainstorming with her,” Martin wrote. This was never a ‘or’ situation. If television has enough room for multiple CSIs and Chicago shows… well Westeros and Essos are a lot larger with thousands of years of history and enough stories and legends and characters for a dozen shows. As heartbreaking as it is to work on a pilot for years to put your blood and sweat and tears into it and have it die to nil is not at all unusual. I’ve been more than once there myself. “I know Jane and her team just feel the disappointment and they have all my sympathy… with my thanks for all their hard work and my good wishes for what they do next.”
Read on for our blow-by-blow account of details published on the now-defunct sequel. Little prequel to R.I.P.
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On Monday, September 16, Martin ordered Goldman & Co’ apos;s prequel pilot on his blog. Martin also provided updates on the second prequel, that is nearing a pilot order.
Martin also took the opportunity to bust some swirling rumors that now in retrospect seem to have some theory to be the case.
Several websites are suggesting that Ryan’s show not making a move means Jane’s show will continue. If that is so, nobody has told me that. I don’t think so. I love what Ryan did, but I’m also excited for the possibilities for Jane’s series,” he wrote. The world of the ice – fire is a world for boys and girls. Massive continents, ten thousand years of history, cities, deserts, oceans, mysteries, triumphs and tragedies. If there were actually eight million stories in the Naked City in the 1950s, then there are certainly eight billion stories to be told about Westeros, Essos, Sothoryos and the lands beyond the Sunset Sea, south of Oz and north of Shangri-La…
In these days of a hundred networks, channels and streaming services, he continued, “I think television has plenty of room for two shows in Westeros… or hell, maybe three or four… After all I still want to do Spearcarriers.”
In the first postgame of Thrones, the fantasy world of Westeros from Martin’s book series A Song of Ice and Fire was divided into around 100 smaller kingdoms in which there were famously seven. The author provided some details about the now-concluded series, which started about 5,000 years before HBO’s hit show, in an interview with Entertainment Weekly.
If you go back further than Aegon’s Conquest then there are nine kingdoms and 12 kingdoms, and eventually, you reach where there are a hundred kingdoms — small kingdoms — », Martin said.
The author also said that fans could expect the Stark family, which goes back to the first humans, as well as White Walkers, Dungeons and Mammals.
He also revealed that the prequel would have begun as a collective story like Game of Thrones did. The actors previously announced, including the Oscar-nominated Naomi Watts (The Impossible) and Miranda Richardson (Harry Potter franchise) would not have led the cast, but would have been the foundation for several stories in the prequel, not called “The Long Night.”
The Longest Night” was the suggestion that it could be called The Longest Night – which is a variant that I would not mind,” he told EW.
The sequel pilot was shot in North Ireland, the production hub of Game of Thrones, in summer 2019
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Though a subsequent series of Game of Thrones was reported dead earlier this year, Martin made an early May announcement about the rumor mill and reassured fans that three at the time were still alive.
Martin wrote “Oh, and speaking of television, do not believe everything you read” Unlikely the Internet reports are unreliable. We had five different GAME OF THRONES future shows in development at HBO (I hate the term spinoffs) and three of them are still taking well in motion. The one which I am not going to call THE LONG NIGHT will be shooting later this year, and two other shows remain in the script stage, but are on the edge of that screen. Worum are they? I can’t say. Maybe some of you should take a copy of FIRE & BLOOD and come up with your own theories.”
(Ouch, we did have. (See below.)
In that regard, my prequel show is not happening and will not happen. HBO decided to go a different route,” said Cogman to the publication. It’s a goodbye. I am finished with Westeros. It’s wonderful bittersweet… I am eager to begin the next chapter but a part of my heart will always live by Game of Thrones.
Back in late March, HBO announced the addition of five additional regular series to the Goldman Project, which had been expected to debut in 2020.
Other announced cast members were revealed as
John Simm (Life on Mars)Marquis Rodriquez (Marvel’s Luke Cage)Richard McCabe (Wallander)John Heffernan (Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell)Dixie Egerickx (Patrick Melrose)
The actors team up with major stars Watts and Josh Whitehouse of Poldark.
On March 18 the network announced that Richardson would also take part in the pilot. Richardson played the nosy journalist Rita Skeeter in the Harry Potter movies.
In January 2019 HBO announced the addition of eight new cast members (clockwise from above left):
Ivanno Jeremiah (Humans)Denise Gough (Monday)Jamie Campbell Bower (The Chronicles of Narnia films)Sheila Atim (Harris)Alex Sharp (How to Talk to Girls at Partys)Naomi Ackie (Lady Macbeth)Toby Regbo
HBO also announced that SJ Clarkson would direct the first series of the show. Clarkson directed and executive produced the pilots for The Defenders and Jessica Jones on Netflix and the BBC/Netflix 4-part Limited Series Collateral featuring Carey Mulligan and written by David Hare.
Watts was the first star attached to the prequel series, HBO announced on November 1st, 2018. The network continued the next day with news that Josh Whitehouse (Poldark) has also been cast.
Not much is known about the new show yet, but Watts’ character is described as a charismatic socialite hid a dark secret. Watts was nominated for Best Actor Oscars for The Impossible in 2013 and 21 Grams in 2004. HBO did not elaborate on Whitehouse’s role.
George R.R. On his blog was quoted Watts, author of the book series Song of Ice and Fire, on which Game of Thrones is based. Naomi, welcoming to Westeros.
: ane Goldman wrote the Long Night Pilot and will be running the show,” he continued. She and her team are currently busy in London casting, and I expect some more names to be announced soon.
HBO ordered the first of the four Game of Thrones – prequels already in the works to pilot in June 2018 Goldman won the competition to develop the next series based on the fantasy universe A Song of Ice and Fire, with her story set in the decline of the Age of Heroes.
Fans of Martin Martin’s series of novels and companion works will recognize this period as the beginning of the legendary Long Night — a generation of winter that hungered and froze the population of Westeros — and witnessed a fierce battle of the Others (White Walkers) and their army of dead (Wights) against the living.
In an earlier blog post, Martin suggested that the number of viable scripts may have narrowed further and expressed concerns with the subject of the prequel written by Condal : I can’t tell you the subject matter of those projects, sorry, but I would not have. Those readers among you would may want to grab a copy of Fire & Blood when it is released on November 20.“
Was the prequel about?
The storyline: “Taking place thousands of years before the events of Game of Thrones, the series chronicles the descent of the world from the golden Age of Heroes into its darkest hour. And only one thing is for sure: From the horrifying secrets of the history of Westeros to the true origin of the white Walkers, the mysteries of the East, to the Starks of the Legend – it is not the story we think we know.”
Who ran the show?
The show was produced by Martin and Goldman, who is known for her screenplays for Stardust, Kick-Ass, X-Men: First Class, The Woman in Black, Kingsman: The Secret Service and the upcoming live action film The Little Mermaid. She averaged 73 tomatometer % on 10 films. Goldman acted as a showrunner.
I’ve consulted all of the writers on all of the successor shows, and several of them have visited me in Santa Fe for long days of discussions,” Martin wrote on his blog. We’ve gone in email, text and phone, so I have definitely been involved… but really the praises should go to Jane. She was an absolute thrill to work with… and what a talent from my god!
Although the following information will be familiar to fans of the Song of Ice and Fire novels and companion material, some of it may be considered spoilers to anyone who chose not to read the book series.
Now what is it that “we believe we know” about the time period of the first prequel?
When It Happens: Descent from the Age of Heroes = the beginning of the long night
The Age of Heroes: Around 10,000 years before Aegon’s Conquest (we’re going to go ahead and use “B.C.” for “before the Conquest”) the Children of the Forest and the First Men accepted the Pact, a peace treaty that started the Age of Heroes, a time where many of the major noble houses, including the Starks, trace their lineage if not earlier.
For reference, the events of the seventh season of the Game of Thrones occur about 300 years after the Conquest (or “C.A.”) of Aegon the Conqueror, the first Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, King of the Iron Throne, and the founding father of the Targaryen dynasty of rulers. Nonetheless, we know that the show took many liberties with the book plots, notably to compress the series’ timeline.
In season 1 of the series, old Nan teaches young Brandon Stark stories of the Long Night, which started 8,000 or 6,000 years ago. (Contexts may appear to differ, even in fiction)
Given the few details about the prequel we have, it would be fair to speculate that its events happen anywhere between 6,000 and 9,000 years before Jon Snow became King in the North and Daenerys returned with her “children” to Dragonstone.
That’s a heck of a long time and it promises that the world in which the Prequel takes place will be in many ways more primitive than the one fans of the show are used to seeing.
Major events within and around the period occurred
The Pact : With around 1,000 or 2,000 years apart from the Pact from the Long Night, the immediate events around the treaty won’t likely be seen (except maybe in flashback like the Tower of Joy moments seen with young Ned and Lyanna Stark in Game of Thrones) The Pact was signed on Isle of Faces in the center of the lake called God’s Eye.
The prequel is set at least 6,000 years before the time of the first. Construction on the monstrous castle Harrenhal, a ruin in Game of Thrones, is to start around 42 years before. — King Harren Hoare Who knows, but what does the new series have to say about the timing of events?
The Long Night: A generation of the darkest, coldest winter in known history who saw the Others rise from land of always winter to destroy the world of men.
Battle for the Dawn is the last battle of the Long Night – the outcome of course is clear given that the events in Game of Thrones occur
The Night King Rises: The thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch breaks his vow and declares himself a king. The Starks of Winterfell and the King Joramun are aiming to take him down. His treachery started when he was seduced by a female Other. That would be White Walker sex that we certainly haven’t seen.
The Andal Invasion: accounts vary, but the Andals crossed the Narrow Sea from Essos somewhere between 2,000 and 6,000 years B.C. to appear on potential foot soldiers of the Andal Invasion, which started at the Fingers (Homeland of Petyr ‘ Littlefinger’ Baelish in Game of Thrones ).
In Essos, people discover dragons: If sheepherders who would go on to become Valyrians of the region discovered their dragons only just when the First Men recovered from the Long Night, that should give us a good idea of how long it will have to go before dragons are a part of this story.
That said, the Asshai’i claimed the dragons of Valyria came from their shadowlands and that the Valyrians were taught to control their dragons by Eastern Mystics who visited the region, so even if the prequel does not show dragons in Valyria, if it spends any time in that magical Eastern part of the world, we could see dragons eventually.
The histories also suggest that the Valyrians and their dragons may have attacked the Andals out of Essos, which would mean that the Andal invasion came later than 6,000 years before BC. We mean earlier in the 2,000, 4,000 or 6,000 years between the Long Night and it (depending on the time the events of the prequel are planned) to Aegon’s conquest
But the potential overlap (at about 6,000 years BC. the prequel could show, for example, the people of Valyrian Peninsula finding the dragon nesting place and their first attempts to trap the beasts, while in Westeros the Long Night might be in full swing
Who are the possibil players?
We’ve already established that we’ll likely see the children of the forest and certainly the First Men (speaking of the old tongue and, after dealing with the children of the forest, worshipers of the Old Gods), but who are the famous people among and around them?
When we asked Wright back in December 2017 if Bran could appear as the three-eyed remorse in a prequel, he said : There is so much to be involved in the history of Westeros. I have to be a small part of some of those bits and to observe some of these early things happening in the world. I would love, yes love, to be a part of any of it, of any of it’s history. If they offered me to come back for a day and kind of come by and look at some scene from King Aerys or whatever, I would not say “no.”
He constructed the wall and Winterfell with Brandon Stark the founder of House Stark. Also, he is credited with building or helping the construction of other mighty projects such as Storm’s End, the seat of house Durrandon (and later the seat of house Baratheon ).
Lords of Durran: The first Storm King, builder of the Storm’s End (possibly with the help of Bran the Builder and the children of the forest) and founder of the House of Durrandon. Durran Elenei, supposedly daughter of the Sea God and goddess of the Wind, brought in all sorts of chaos
Dondarrions : The ancestral house of Game of Thrones (leader of Brotherhood Without Banners and the last head of his house ) – Dondarrions –
The richest lords of Westeros had found gold in their rock and built the most impressive castle on the continent in the process of excavations. In the Age of Heroes they lost their home and the family was disappearing.
Lann the Clever : founder of House Lannister who famously swindled Casterly Rock from House Casterly
House Dayne of Starfall: An ancient house of Dorne whose feigned sons carry the family’s ancestral Grandsword Dawn and are called “Sword of the Morning.” (In Game of Thrones Flashbacks Sword of the Morning Ser Arthur Dayne is killed by the young Ned Stark and Howland Reed.)
House Gardener: Founders of the Reach whose seat was at Highgarden (later Queen Margaery’s residence and the seat of House Tyrell, which is rendered extinct in Game of Thrones by Cersei Lannister )
The last hero: The last surviving member of a party of First Men who fought the north to find the Children of the Forest to help to destroy the Other. The last hero succeeded in bringing the Children to help the fight, resulting in the formation of night & war and the battle for the dawn.
Joramun: A legendary king- beyond the wall blew the horn of Winter and woke the gyrants
The Winter King Brandon was another “Brandon Stark” who joined with Joramun to defeat the Night King and his corpse bride.
The true elders of the children of the forest had the greensight, were skin changers and wargs, and could enter the minds of wolves or dogs. The greatest of them could come into the mind of any beast.
Giants: The once-harriers of the children of the forest, the giants are found north of the wall in the events of Game of Thrones until Jon Snow has brought the Wildlings south. Legend says that Bran built the wall with the help of giants.
The protectors of the Isle of Faces, where the pact was signed, could be children of the forest or perhaps men.
Asshai’i : The witches, wizards, shadowbinders and others of the magical city of Asshai from where Melisandre of Game of Thrones came from.
Early Valyrians: The shepherds that discover dragons and continue to find the Freehold of Valyria may be presented in the sequel. (But no Targaryens once again! )
The people of the dominant culture in Essos at the time of the Age of Heroes were slavers.
The Other: “White Walkers” in Game of Thrones. The Night King and his court are other Game of Thrones characters who may appear in prequels. Remember that in the series Leaf is shown slaying a human captive with dragonglass that turns him into the Night King to help fight the invading firstmen. Speaking of…
The Night’s King and Night’s Watch: The treacherous Night’s King (not to be confused with the White Walker Night King — or maybe so ), and his army of Night’s Watch would turn the heroics of Night’s Watch in Game of Thrones on its head.
Urron Greyiron: The King of the Iron Islands of House Greyiron, who stole the title by murdering the competition during the King’s moot.
The first waves of the bloody Andal invasion could be compressed into Long Night. But if the Andals were pushed out of Essos by expanding Valyrians, then the largest part of the invasion would have occurred after the Long Night. The prequel is a reference to the decline of the Age of Heroes, however, and the Long Night lasted about a generation, so that the characters of the prequel could be born and die of old age over the course of the invasion.
Places We Might See
- The wall is currently under construction.
- Winterfell under construction.
- Casterly changing hands with the Rocky foot
- The Reach, prosperous and guided by the Kings of House Gardener
- Before the wall, “North of the Wall” stood next to the wall
- Asshai and the dark shadow land (if we’re lucky )
- The ancient empire of Ghis
- Yi Ti (fall of the Great Empire of the Dawn / Rise of Yi Ti Golden Empire )
- Before dragons and the doomsdays it was called “Valyria”.
- Andalos is the home of Andals in Essos
You can see some of these places on maps! Try here or buy the collection of 12 maps of land ice and fire here.
Beyond : What Holds a Sequel to this prequel
The arrival of the Targaryens & the end of Valyria: The blown, smoking-dead Valyrian Freehold – the Targaryen homeland – met a great catastrophe. A series which clarifies the mystery of exactly what happened would be most welcomed. Targaryens left Valyria with their dragons before the Doom and landed on Dragonstone and formed their family.
Aegon’s Conquest: Aegon would later conquer six of the seven kingdoms. A prequel sequel would show the last of the Kings of the Isles and the rivers, Harren the Black, the building of Harrenhal and the great castle destruction by Aegon’s fierce and stunning dragon Balerion the Black Dread whose huge skull rests under the red wall in the time of Game of Thrones.
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